CSA receive Fonejacker style treatment
Posted on November 25th, 2007 by MrDaz
When I phoned the CSA on Wednesday their incompetence left me stunned. They were refusing to speak to me because they thought I’d record the phone call and embarrass them. Well, as they’re trying to steal money from me that I simply don’t owe them, refusing to speak to me AND can’t get my address right they’ve left me with no choice.
I have to fight them on my terms, my way. Watch this video, this my friends, is just the beginning…
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fonejacker my arse…that was far better than any fone jacker sketch ive seen.
Man, i cannot believe the scrapes you get involved in. You must have some major bad karma! It goes from bad to worse!
I hope they sort it out for you daz cos, by the look of your mybloglog community widget at the bottom of your screen, theres a lot of very high profile bloggers reading this and it could so very easily by spread across the main stream media within days….not what they want at the CSA right now! again.
Poor guy on the phone tho…caught in the middle of all of this. If this story gets profile, I dont hold out too much hope of him keeping his job after letting that address blunder out of the bag even though his system told him that you record your calls. Bad move.
We must meet up soon for a few frames
Jase
Absolutely fantastic way of showing the incompetencies of this agency regarding how they have dealt with this situation.
A great use of technology that will surely help them to fix their error. I hope they do, or it could end up being a PR disaster as you said in the call.
Hmmm.. Something doesn’t quite add up here does it?. You say that half the mortgage £325 is more than 25% of your monthy income.
This would mean even your net monthly would be less than £1300pm.
“I’m an Affiliate Marketeer, SEO, web developer and all round Internet personage. I work for a leading Internet Marketing firm and run a network of content websites.”
earning less than 15,6k (net) per year.??
Me thinks someones telling porkies?
15,6K per year? Maths isn’t your strongest point is it buddy?
If I was lying about figures I’d be very quickly found out wouldn’t I? The Inland Revenue would surely have something to say on the matter, assuming they didn’t lose my file.
After tax and deductions my friend…
I had taken into account tax and deductions and working with £325 as 25% of your NET monthly income as clearly stated on my message.
I have no problem with the maths mate.
For someone who is “an Affiliate Marketeer, SEO, web developer and all round Internet personage. I work for a leading Internet Marketing firm and run a network of content websites” being asked for £550 should be no problem at all.
The CSA have also taken into account tax and deductions, and they’ve arrived at the figure of £320. The £550 is because they think I’m in arrears for the last year. As I’ve been paying her mortgage, I’m not in arrears.
Personally I don’t fancy paying out £870 per month to my ex-wife, which is what I would be paying if the CSA had their way and I continued to pay her mortgage.
Can your maths understand that?
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Get yourself a life, you weren’t against getting your missus up the duff, so face up to your responsibilities. There are too many non resident parents in this country who are refusing to pay. I hope the C.S.A use the powers they have to make you pay! As for recording phone calls, these people are just doing their job to provide for their families.
Why’s your name Anne but your email address is susan0864@hotmail.co.uk?
Anyway, I’m not ducking my responsibilities. As other posts on this blog, and the video itself show, I’m paying more than they want me to pay already.
Recording phone calls is my right. I’d recommend everyone do it, you’d be surprised the positive effect it has when companies realise you’re doing it.
Anne, why don’t you choose sides based on who’s right and who’s wrong, and not just decide the man is wrong because he’s a man?
Have you got a brain? Well why don’t you use it and think for yourself instead of spounting such cliched and small-minded dim-twattery? Daily Mail reader by any chance?
Companies record all their phone calls. Why the fuck shouldn’t the man on the street have the same right?
[..YouTube..] No-one gets their wages arrested on the strength of one missing letter so where’s the rest of the story? Would have been more interesting to see what someone who is actually dealing with your case would have had to say, although I doubt any of them would have spoken to you: considering you tape calls without asking permission and get a kick out of humiliating and abusing vulnerable people who are trying to help you, and then broadcast it on the net behind a faceless profile.
[..YouTube..] There’s actually a string of missing letters my friend. I don’t get a kick out of humiliating people, I get annoyed at someone stealing from me and causing my house to be repossessed. My profile isn’t faceless, quite the opposite. The website is the description for the video, follow the link. It even has my address, I’m anything but faceless.Trying to help me? When did they try to help me? I must have missed that part.
[..YouTube..] As for recording phone calls without permission, you don’t need permission to record your phone calls. It’s your right to do so. Considering the lies and incompetence on show from a great many companies, particularly government agencies I’d suggest everyone does it.
[..YouTube..] If you tape someone without asking permission then I’d say that’s a violation of their human rights: that’s right, the ‘CSA guy’ is a person too and does have some.If you treat all CSA staff like that then it’s no surprise to me that no-one’s going out their way to help you. I’d actually bet money they won’t be, what goes around comes around.
[..YouTube..] A violation of their human rights? What planet are you from? Planet USA I’d guess.It’s my right to record my phone calls. Look it up!
[..YouTube..] I’m from the planet that believes in treating people with a bit of respect. And thats in the UK.
[..YouTube..] You’d think you’d know the law then, rather than babbling on about people’s ‘human rights’ in relation to taping phone calls.Guess there’s people like you in every country.
[..YouTube..] Aww, there you go again, getting personal cause someone says something you don’t like. Put a controversial video on Youtube, expect people to have an opinion on your actions. You seem to be incapable of taking that without getting abusive.You’d have a better argument if your story about repossession wasnt such a load of rubbish anyway. If you dont understand what I mean, ask the CSA, but try losing the attitude.
[..YouTube..] In addition, if your wages are being arrested, it’s for one reason and one reason only: you havent paid your maintenance. Missing letters and paying your ex-partners mortgage have nothing to do with it. Paying a mortgage doesnt reduce your maintenance pound for pound: you might qualify for a small reduction in maintenance via a departure, but in the eyes of ‘the law’, its not a substitute for maintenencae calculated by the CSA. Many non resident parents pay both anyway.
[..YouTube..] I have no issues with people disagreeing with me, it’s quite common. You’re just simply wrong. My right is to record my phone calls, you’re wrong about that. The house is being repossessed. You’re wrong about that. Otherwise, well done!
[..YouTube..] Rubbish! The law is about tapping of phone calls. It states that at least one person must know that the phone call is being recorded, otherwise it is illegal unless a warrant has been issued.
[..YouTube..] Jake, you are perfectly within your rights to record your phone calls as you well know. I am very sorry to hear about your trouble. I have a coworker who has no end of troubles with the CSA. He found out that the letters they sent out actually get sent to a separate department for typing up and sending, which is presumably where the errors are introduced. If they just printed the label direct from the database there would not be as many problems. It reeks of incompetence and beaurocracy.
[..YouTube..] A warrant? We’re in the UK mate. The legality of my recording my phone calls is NOT in question. I do not have to notify anyone that I’m recording them, I can do so without their permission.
[..YouTube..] Warrants are common practice in the UK and have been for years. see the Interception of Communications Act 1985 and Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 for more information specific to phone tapping warrants.
[..YouTube..] You are entitled to record your conversations. It is similar to taking written notes and not against UK law. Good luck in your dispute with these idiots.
Excellent stuff,
As for phones, your perfectly within your rights to record and publish, everyone should record CSA if they must talk to them, they lie, cheat, make deals they don’t keep, threaten and abuse their victims.
We’ll happily carry links to any taped conversations or other dealing with the British Gestapo, letters, biographies, case histories. We hate them and seek to destroy them in their current form and the act that supports them. They have nothing to do with child support they are the provisional wing of the treasury and money is their only interest, they also steal from children see our lead article and there’s more on that still to come Http://www.onwww.co.uk Name & Shame CSA.
Thanks Fletcher. In fact the accountant where I work spoke to them yesterday and passed them onto me. I was assured, absolutely assured that a supervisor would phone me today about the money they are deducting from me.
Guess what?
That’s right, no call!
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I wish all these sad and bitter ex wives would get a life and move on,If I hated the father of my child so much I wouldnt want anything from him not even his money,take responsibility for yourself.
I have been with my partner for 7 years,he was divorced already,his ex had the house paid for in full a people carrier to ferry her other kids and his about and all her debts paid off when they split,(promising that was enough and she would never contact the csa) my partner was doing the right thing or so he thought!! for 6of those years he has not seen his kids she sold up took all the equity from the home and dissapeared,she randomly contacts the csa to enquire about his earning on a whim which results in extra money for her.The kids recently got in touch with him and she has now messed it up again by requesting what his earning are?,she is a sick greedy individual who puts money before her kids.My partner has always faced his financial responsibilities but with the continual “cock ups the csa make and the blatent disregard for any prior payments/agreements that have been made, it makes it extremley difficult to stay reasonable.
We have had compensation in the past from the csa by writing recorded delivery to the chairman and involving him personally in there hideous mistakes. dont trust them or ever give up,I have found when really challenged you can wear them down. How easy was it to get that guy to talk to you even when clearly he knew he should not?. Keep your chin up and keep fighting mate for what is right.
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You really are a complete jerk off… you’re obviously lying out of your arse and you’re the maker of your own problems by being such an arsehole.
i work for a call centre and putting up with complete dicks like you is a nightmare, oh there’s also the fact that you’re a complete joke and a laughing stock amongst the staff once the call has ended!
TIT!
So people like me are the laughing stock of call centre staff? You find your own incompetence amusing and the fact that your mistakes have cost thousands of parents and children millions of pounds in the UK already?
You’re a special kind of arsehole aren’t you? How can I be lying dip shit when the information is right there in the call?
Moron.
[..YouTube..] Either way the overall inadequacy of the CSA is not really in dispute: I think the issue is more with you manipulating some poor guy on the phone then humiliating him on the internet to make yourself feel better. No-one with the power to change anything gives a shit about Youtube or this video. If you’re serious, take your protest through the correct channels or least try and ‘expose’ the right people.
I just watched your clip, brilliant. I’m going through the same just now, £18k bill sent to me, on investigation I was then told by the CSA its actually £26k+. The phone opperators do not care about circumstances, previous debt carried or money already paying to the ex-wife/kids.
I will be recording any further conversations, although it’s a shame I did not record the last one, the opperator told me
“bascially you are stuffed and have to pay what we say regardless if the demand is wrong, you did not write to us within 28-days of the demand to dispute, therefore the demand stands in CSA ‘law’, we don’t care if you are still paying this when your kids are 25 years old”
I’m a 40 year old professional, I could not beleive what was being said to me by a 20-22 year old failed telesales opperator, who obviously has targets to meet and the unreasonable power of the CSA as backing.
Even trying to explain the facts of my case, give dates of written responses, dates of phone calls and who with, confirm details are logged in their system and then ask for a review - the answer is “no chance, we have been told to come down hard on everyone - you have to pay - contact your MP - complain - keep paying what we say - appeal - keep paying what we say”
This is very scary that Human rights have little meaning to he CSA.
[..YouTube..] Oh believe me, this video is just an aside, I will be exposing the right people. I’ll be exposing the whole agency, in minute graphic detail.
[..YouTube..] The 25 million peoples details lost, were lost by the Revenue and Customs and it was child maintance data not child support data. YOU MUPPET!!!
[..YouTube..] Yes, I said that in the phone call you fucking wanker.
[..YouTube..] Alrite, calm down!!! Listen believe me I sympathise with ya on this subject, Theres alot that goes on behind the scenes that you wud have a field day with!!!!
[..YouTube..] I know what goes on, trust me. This video is just the beginning. I’m on a quest here, and the CSA have no idea where this will end.These dipshits steal money from parents and children. They’re the lowest scum in the country. They should be ashamed of who they are and what they do for a living.
[..YouTube..] I work for the CSA and Ironically I’m filling in an online application for a new job right now!!
[..YouTube..] your an idiot!!! how dare you tell them what to do. your the one that had the kids so pay for them. hope they make you pay more!!!!!!hahaha
[..YouTube..] very very funny, only problem being that you didnt tell (ryan) that you were recording him or that you would put the phonecall on the internet. so a big whoopsee there as youve broken the law. hopefully (ryan) doesnt know about this or it could get you into trouble.i personaly get these sort of phone calls every day, very amusing!!!
[..YouTube..] I’ve broken the law have I? Interesting, what law might that be?Please tell me, because from where I sit I’m under the somewhat accurate impression that I haven’t broken any law. It is my legal right to both record the phonecall AND to broadcast it WITHOUT the permission of the other party (Ryan) if I deem it in the public interest.So buddy, guess you’re wrong… and the CSA have seen this, there’s sod all they can do about it.
[..YouTube..] I do pay for them imbecile, if you bothered to listen to the phone call and understand it like any normal, intelligent person would, you’d know that.Indeed how dare I tell these thieving debt collectors who steal money from children what to do. I should be shot for standing up for the rights of children everywhere.You gormless fucking prick.
[..YouTube..] seriously its the law, believe me.someone i know done something similar and got screwed over big time.just because you havnt heard anything yet doesnt mean to say somethings not being done. nevermind,eh. prob wont do anything.have you got any more of these calls? im interested because i used to work there, i personaly believe i done a good job (cant speak for anyone else tho) but i do totaly disagree with some of the laws etc. id hate to have to go through the csa!!!
[..YouTube..] seriously its the law, believe me.
someone i know done something similar and got screwed over big time.
just because you havnt heard anything yet doesnt mean to say somethings not being done. nevermind,eh. prob wont do anything.
have you got any more of these calls? im interested because i used to work there, i personaly believe i done a good job (cant speak for anyone else tho) but i do totaly disagree with some of the laws etc. id hate to have to go through the csa!!!
[..YouTube..] You used to work for the CSA and you’re lecturing me on the law? By Christ where do these morons come from?Pal, you clearly have as much grasp of the law as the CSA have of humanity, fuck all.Don’t you think I know the law with regards to publishing my own phone calls? It’s part of my job mucca. Yes I have more like this, check the website.Save your misinterpretation of the law for someone who cares what you say.
[..YouTube..] You used to work for the CSA and you’re lecturing me on the law?
By Christ where do these morons come from?
Pal, you clearly have as much grasp of the law as the CSA have of humanity, fuck all.
Don’t you think I know the law with regards to publishing my own phone calls? It’s part of my job mucca. Yes I have more like this, check the website.
Save your misinterpretation of the law for someone who cares what you say.
[..YouTube..] we will check those phone calls out then.i think you should care, as i say i USED to work there. and the people that you speak to on the phone arent the ppl that make up the rules its the mps that everyone seems to complain to about the ppl on the phone that make the rules up so in my recogning they should take the stick. everyone has to work for a living and ppl shouldnt be judged on where they work or what they do. many ppl who work for the csa have cases and have the same opinion as you
[..YouTube..] we will check those phone calls out then.
i think you should care, as i say i USED to work there. and the people that you speak to on the phone arent the ppl that make up the rules its the mps that everyone seems to complain to about the ppl on the phone that make the rules up so in my recogning they should take the stick. everyone has to work for a living and ppl shouldnt be judged on where they work or what they do. many ppl who work for the csa have cases and have the same opinion as you
[..YouTube..] oh and by the way im not a moron!!!!
[..YouTube..] So, because they work for the CSA they can use the Nazi defense of ‘we were only following orders’? Is that what you’re saying?I’ve spoken to a great many people at the CSA, some quite high up. The whole system is rotten to its very core with undesirable, self centered scum who take a veritable pride in stealing the money from children.How they can sleep at night is beyond me. How you can openly admit to working there is difficult to understand. You’re more hated than traffic wardens.
[..YouTube..] So, because they work for the CSA they can use the Nazi defense of ‘we were only following orders’? Is that what you’re saying?
I’ve spoken to a great many people at the CSA, some quite high up. The whole system is rotten to its very core with undesirable, self centered scum who take a veritable pride in stealing the money from children.
How they can sleep at night is beyond me. How you can openly admit to working there is difficult to understand. You’re more hated than traffic wardens.
[..YouTube..] Prove it, say something intelligent.
[..YouTube..] pfftIf you put more effort into your personal relationships instead of being dodgy on the phone/internet maybe you wouldn’t have to deal with the CSA…
[..YouTube..] pfft
If you put more effort into your personal relationships instead of being dodgy on the phone/internet maybe you wouldn’t have to deal with the CSA…
[..YouTube..] Yet another Moron. Firstly how do you know that the relationship breakdown was his fault? Secondly as previous posts were advised, “listen to the phone call”. Many people have no choice but to use the CSA. The vast majority are more than willing to pay any money to support their children but this needs to be a fair amount. The “system” clearly doesn’t work but for the time being we are stuck with it. What doesn’t help are the illeterate monkies that deal with the enquiries.
[..YouTube..] The child support scheme in Australia is going through a huge reform at the moment and they are using a more “balanced approach”.Hopefully for those parents in Australia this may bring some relief top the government taking on board their concerns.But unfortunately I guess it won’t fit for everyone, but hopefully for those parents who are wanting to do the best by their children it may bring some far greater “fairness” for them..I still think it’s dodgy recording a phonecall thats my 2cents
[..YouTube..] The child support scheme in Australia is going through a huge reform at the moment and they are using a more “balanced approach”.
Hopefully for those parents in Australia this may bring some relief top the government taking on board their concerns.
But unfortunately I guess it won’t fit for everyone, but hopefully for those parents who are wanting to do the best by their children it may bring some far greater “fairness” for them..
I still think it’s dodgy recording a phonecall thats my 2cents
[..YouTube..] livvibangbangadmiting that they are changing to a more balanced approach says that previously there was discrimination. That aside it still isnt balanced. As a person involved in CS stakeholders group, the Australian senate diverted from recomendations without consulting back with stakeholders.
[..YouTube..] livvibangbang
admiting that they are changing to a more balanced approach says that previously there was discrimination. That aside it still isnt balanced. As a person involved in CS stakeholders group, the Australian senate diverted from recomendations without consulting back with stakeholders.
[..YouTube..] You think it’s dodgy recording a phonecall?Why?If everyone recorded their phonecalls organisations like the CSA would be less inclined to tell lies. This is why the CSA won’t speak to me on the phone now, they know I’m recording it and any lies they come out with will be documented.I have recorded my phonecalls for over a year now and it’s proven one thing; it gets results.It’s also my legal right to do so, there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
[..YouTube..] You think it’s dodgy recording a phonecall?
Why?
If everyone recorded their phonecalls organisations like the CSA would be less inclined to tell lies. This is why the CSA won’t speak to me on the phone now, they know I’m recording it and any lies they come out with will be documented.
I have recorded my phonecalls for over a year now and it’s proven one thing; it gets results.
It’s also my legal right to do so, there’s nothing anyone can do about it.
[..YouTube..] It actually sounded like the employee you recorded in this instance, was not lying about anything, but only telling the truth… Where in the phone call did he tell a lie? Sounds as though your the one bending the truth..
[..YouTube..] The above comment is in reply to Jake cops comment.I will leave it there, I’m glad I don’t have children yet and I’m glad I am not a separated parent.No disrespect was intended to the seperated parents dealing with the CSA as I’m sure it would be difficult on top of everything else.
[..YouTube..] The above comment is in reply to Jake cops comment.
I will leave it there, I’m glad I don’t have children yet and I’m glad I am not a separated parent.
No disrespect was intended to the seperated parents dealing with the CSA as I’m sure it would be difficult on top of everything else.
[..YouTube..] I did say he lied, idiot. He knew I was recording the call. That’s why they don’t speak to me.I have all of my calls with the CSA recorded, where numerous lies are told. I encourage anyone and everyone to record their phonecalls with the CSA. If we all do it, they can’t lie to us.
[..YouTube..] I did say he lied, idiot. He knew I was recording the call. That’s why they don’t speak to me.
I have all of my calls with the CSA recorded, where numerous lies are told. I encourage anyone and everyone to record their phonecalls with the CSA. If we all do it, they can’t lie to us.
[..YouTube..] Did you write that script out before you made the call?
[..YouTube..] No, I didn’t write anything. I’d literally just been told by the accountant at work that the CSA were demanding they deduct over £400 per month from my pay because I was in arrears. I’d sent them a letter before and had no response, so phoned them to find out why they’d done that without telling me.Then Ryan revealed they’d sent a letter, but to the wrong address. They’re a joke, a bad joke.
[..YouTube..] No, I didn’t write anything. I’d literally just been told by the accountant at work that the CSA were demanding they deduct over £400 per month from my pay because I was in arrears. I’d sent them a letter before and had no response, so phoned them to find out why they’d done that without telling me.
Then Ryan revealed they’d sent a letter, but to the wrong address. They’re a joke, a bad joke.
[..YouTube..] i record all my phone calls with the bank and all other companys because some times you get them doing it for training perpousesplus it’s your legal rightiv got myself out of some deep holes from recording my calls
[..YouTube..] i record all my phone calls with the bank and all other companys because some times you get them doing it for training perpouses
plus it’s your legal right
iv got myself out of some deep holes from recording my calls
[..YouTube..] “Sounds as though your the one bending the truth..” - livvibangbangWhere was he bending the truth? This is not just a testimony… it’s a REAL audio recording. You call that dodgy? I call it trying to make things equal.Phone calls must be recorded because… “civil servants” LIE. That includes, mediators, children’s lawyers, clerks, judges, and the rest — you name it. Surprise!
[..YouTube..] “Sounds as though your the one bending the truth..” - livvibangbang
Where was he bending the truth? This is not just a testimony… it’s a REAL audio recording. You call that dodgy? I call it trying to make things equal.
Phone calls must be recorded because… “civil servants” LIE. That includes, mediators, children’s lawyers, clerks, judges, and the rest — you name it. Surprise!
[..YouTube..] livvibangbang, You probably don’t know what it’s like to go to family court and lose as soon as the judge finds out you’re a male. In many cases, the children LOSE.
[..YouTube..] Good one! Well done.Another stake in the heart of the abusive system.
[..YouTube..] Good one! Well done.
Another stake in the heart of the abusive system.
[..YouTube..] well done matey ,that just gave me dej’u've . i’ve had the same and worse of these crettins, bull sh*t after lie after lie , you’ve got it sewen up though !! whats the best way to record these phone calls ,it would have saved me £576 so far this year i was promised a reduction due to over payment which seems to have vanished along with the person whose name i took and details which they assured me were put on my case file !!
[..YouTube..] You sound like me on the phone.The CSA is despicable for their anti-male propaganda, ensuring there’s little sympathy from the uneducated public.CSA exposure items usually focus poor mums not getting their money, rather than government demanding money with menaces to offset their benefits bill by making parents pay the abductors/abusers of their children. Family courts are the same.
[..YouTube..] You sound like me on the phone.
The CSA is despicable for their anti-male propaganda, ensuring there’s little sympathy from the uneducated public.
CSA exposure items usually focus poor mums not getting their money, rather than government demanding money with menaces to offset their benefits bill by making parents pay the abductors/abusers of their children. Family courts are the same.
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Well done. When you start to deal with “The System” you soon realise you are not dealt with in a fair manner. Indeed when you try and be reasonable it gets used against you as a sign of weakness.
Truly this guy is doing this to save his sanity and his kids home.
Dont ever think something like this would never happen to you or you would deal with it in a calm manner. I spent £26k to get contact with my son . I divorced my wife for verbal and physical abuse yet I was the one who had to prove I was a fit father. The Law and the curved media view of every guy is a bastard works against men. There is no level playing field.
[..YouTube..] this is long over due.well done for showing how stupid the csa realy is
[..YouTube..] Men are 2nd-class citizens, there’s no two ways about it. Any feminist who clings on to the idea that women are oppressed is utterly delusional, a liar or both.
[..YouTube..] Simply outstanding. -I suggest you send a copy of this recording to your MP and the government minister in charge of the CSA shambles.-and good on you for standing up for yourself.
[..YouTube..] Simply outstanding.
-I suggest you send a copy of this recording to your MP and the government minister in charge of the CSA shambles.
-and good on you for standing up for yourself.
[..YouTube..] seriously guys if there was no csa would you pay any money.
Becouse i haven’t told the csa my x’s address and he won’t even buy his kid any clothes.
In 5yrs he has seen his kid 4 times.
The csa suck the reason why i can’t tell the csa his address is becouse if he can’t pay them then the kids will see their dad suffer.
Kids only understand that they love their parent and not about money.
Sorry to all the good dads out there.
[..YouTube..] In Australia the [hone calls are recorded and you can request the recording. Do they not do that in the UK?
[..YouTube..] livvibangbang, I live in Canada; the gender bias in Family court isn’t too different from the UK. I don’t know about the hone calls you’re asking about — sorry. I do know that in court, you’re not allowed to record for yourself, but they are. You can request a transcript, but you have to … pay.
[..YouTube..] Brilliant !
[..YouTube..] brilliant what a country we live in a total farce
[..YouTube..] I had something similar happen with the DMV.
I have read all the letters re the CSA and I do understand why so many fathers get emotional.
However, this doesn’t help, losing your cool, especially with the CSA, it’s like punching jelly.
The CSA is being wound up, but its successor may well be worse !
NRP’s must get all the facts together, keep to the letter of the LAW, keep copies of ALL correspondence, and if still not satisfied, then bring in your MP, the national press, use up all their complaints procedure, Keep paying something if only to show some co-operation.
Let them do all the running, puffing and shouting. If you have no funds then they can;’t get blood out of a stone. I’m dealing with an arrears case for a client running into tens of thousands, no one said that life was easy, but persistence pays off - eventually !
[..YouTube..] Pathetic, Pay for your kids and stop bullshitting and crying about it, Keep your dick in your trousers unless you’re willing to pay for your kids
[..YouTube..] , Good grief…”My house is going to get repossessed” tough shit, Keep up with your repayments and you wouldn’t have a DEO on you. You’re clearly an non compliment parent not wanting to pay for your children otherwise they wouldn’t be going to your employers for money. Obviously your ex has no faith in you otherwise she wouldn’t be going to the CSA in the first place.
[..YouTube..] Oh and recording phone calls like you did with that case worker would not stand up in court, for one reason… You didn’t want him at the beginning of the call..So the CSA will carry on lieing and you’ll carry on crying lol
[..YouTube..] WARN* My bad…
[..YouTube..] Calls don’t have to stand up in court, it’s what we call trial by media. I am paying for my children, though thanks to the CSA I’m paying twice. Dick head.